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Charlie's the man who never seems to spend much time in the sun; Working as he does on the engineering crew on one of the British Navy's submarines (the Vengeance,) and being a caver at heart, means he goes from crawling around in dark tunnels and enclosed areas on board the submarine, where they can stay submerged for up to 15 weeks, to abseiling down pitches and squirming through tight passages in caves. "At least on the submarine you are warm and dry and well-fed," he says with a laugh.
However, choosing submarining as a job did not really come from a need to avoid contact with the real world. In fact, it was quite the opposite. "if you volunteer for submarine work, in reality you have several advantages, apart from the extra pay, of course. It offers a certain stability, especially if you have a family. You'll basically end up working from one port, which means that the family won't have to move around all the time." Charlie has three sons: Oliver, Alistair and Lawrence. He's been submarining for 21 years now, and living in Scotland.
So what's the attraction? "I've always liked camaraderie, doing something hard and difficult, and what I call 'corporate achievement.' The beauty of caving is that it is very low key compared to climbing. There are no cliques forming, and very little ego - you could call it the ultimate equalizer of sports. Another thing that equalizes is fear. With caving sometimes you have both," he says, reminding us of the potential dangers of the sport.
"Mexico is fascinating, although I haven't actually had time to look around much at the area, at least not above ground. Language is difficult, though," he says, mentioning conversations he's had with Totonacos who didn't even speak a word of Spanish. "We talked for a long time, although neither of us understood a single word of what the other said," he tells us.
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